sofia
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My babies hugging! What a good couple!
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Post by sofia on Jul 14, 2006 17:24:48 GMT -5
Ok, you might have seen my post on introduce yourself about all my animals, and I am also getting chicken coop/s I know a little about them, and since I was little I LOVED animals, and so I always wanted chickens, I had gone to mexico when I was small and am fluent in spanish, lots of people there let me play with their chicks and hens, it was so fun, but after a while boring, so now I am getting them just to have eggs.
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Post by Morocco Rock Fox on Jul 14, 2006 19:28:06 GMT -5
General biology and habitat Male chickens are known as roosters (in the U.S., Canada and Australia), cocks, or cockerels if they are young. Female chickens are known as hens, or 'chooks' in Australasian English. Young females are known as pullets. Roosters can usually be differentiated from hens by their striking plumage, marked by long flowing tails and bright pointed feathers on their necks.
However in some breeds, such as the Seabright, the cock only has slightly pointed neck feathers, and the identification must be made by looking at the comb. Chickens have a fleshy crest on their heads called a comb, and a fleshy piece of hanging skin under their beak called a wattle. These organs help to cool the bird by redirecting bloodflow to the skin. Both the male and female have distinctive wattles and combs. In males, the combs are often more prominent, though this is not the case in all varieties.
Chickens are omnivores and will feed on small seeds, herbs and leaves, grubs, insects and even small mammals if they can get them. Domestic chickens are typically fed commercially prepared feed that includes a protein source as well as grains. Chickens often scratch at the soil to get at adult insects and larvae or seed. Incidents of cannibalism can occur when a curious bird pecks at a pre-existing wound or from over-crowding. This is exacerbated in close quarters. In commercial production this is controlled with chick "debeaking" (removal of 2/3 of the top half and 1/3 of the lower half of the beak).
Domestic chickens are not capable of flying for long distances, although they are generally capable of flying for short distances such as over fences. Chickens will sometimes fly simply in order to explore their surroundings, but will especially fly in an attempt to flee when they perceive danger. Because of the risk of flight, chickens raised in the open air generally have one of their wings clipped by the breeder — the tips of the longest feathers on one of the wings are cut, resulting in unbalanced flight which the bird cannot sustain for more than a few meters (more on wing clipping).Chickens are gregarious birds and live together as a flock. They have a communal approach to the incubation of eggs and raising of young. Individual chickens in a flock will dominate others, establishing a "pecking order", with dominant individuals having priority for access to food and nesting locations. Removing hens or roosters from a flock causes a temporary disruption to this social order until a new pecking order is established.
Chickens will try to lay in nests that already contain eggs, and have been known to move eggs from neighbouring nests into their own. Some farmers use fake eggs made from plastic or stone to encourage hens to lay in a particular location. The result of this behaviour is that a flock will use only a few preferred locations, rather than having a different nest for every bird.
Hens can also be extremely stubborn about always laying in the same location. It is not unknown for two (or more) hens to try to share the same nest at the same time. If the nest is small, or one of the hens is particularly determined, this may result in chickens trying to lay on top of each other.
Contrary to popular belief, roosters may crow at anytime of the day or night. Their crowing - a loud and sometimes shrill call - is a territorial signal to other roosters. However, crowing may also result from sudden disturbances within their surroundings.
Chickens are domesticated descendants of the red junglefowl, which is biologically classified as the same species.
Recent studies [1] have shown that chickens (and possibly other bird species) still retain the genetic blueprints to produce teeth in the jaws, although these are dormant in living animals. These are a holdover from primitive birds such as Archaeopteryx, which were descended from theropod dinosaurs. Courting When a rooster finds food he may call the other chickens to eat it first. He does this by clucking in a high pitch as well as picking up and dropping the food. In some cases the rooster will drag the wing opposite the hen on the ground, while circling her. This is part of chicken courting ritual. When a hen is used to coming to his "call" the rooster may mount the hen and proceed with the fertilization.
Going broody Sometimes a hen will stop laying and instead will focus on the incubation of eggs, a state that is commonly known as going broody. A broody chicken will sit fast on the nest, and protest if disturbed or removed, and will rarely leave the nest to eat, drink, or dust bathe. While broody, the hen keeps the eggs at a constant temperature and humidity, as well as turning the eggs regularly.
At the end of the incubation period, which is an average of 21 days, the eggs (if fertilized) will hatch, and the broody hen will take care of her young. Since individual eggs do not all hatch at exactly the same time (the chicken can only lay one egg approximately every 25 hours), the hen will usually stay on the nest for about two days after the first egg hatches. During this time, the newly-hatched chicks live off the egg yolk they absorb just before hatching. The hen can hear the chicks peeping inside the eggs, and will gently cluck to encourage them to break out of their shells. If the eggs are not fertilized and do not hatch, the hen will eventually grow tired of being broody and leave the nest.
Modern egg-laying breeds rarely go broody, and those that do often stop part-way through the incubation cycle. Some breeds, such as the Cochin, Cornish and Silkie, regularly go broody and make excellent mothers.
Artificial incubation Chicken egg incubation can successfully occur artificially as well. Nearly all chicken eggs will hatch after 21 days of good conditions - 99.5° fahrenheit (37.5°C) and around 55% relative humidity (increase to 70% in the last three days of incubation to help soften egg shell). Many commercial incubators are industrial-sized with shelves holding tens of thousands of eggs at a time, with rotation of the eggs a fully automated process.
Home incubators are usually small boxes (styrofoam incubators are popular) and hold a few to 50 eggs. Eggs must be turned three to five times each day, rotating at least 90 degrees. If eggs aren't turned, the embryo inside will stick to the shell and likely will be hatched with physical defects. This process is natural; hens will stand up three to five times a day and shift the eggs around with their beak.
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Post by Morocco Rock Fox on Jul 14, 2006 19:33:15 GMT -5
Chickens as pets Chickens can make loving and gentle companion animals. In Asia, chickens with striking plumage have long been kept for ornamental purposes, including feather-footed varieties such as the Cochin and Silkie from China and the extremely long-tailed Phoenix from Japan. Asian ornamental varieties were imported into the United States and Great Britain in the late 1800s. Poultry fanciers then began keeping these ornamental birds for exhibition, a practice that continues today. From these Asian breeds, distinctive American varieties of chickens have been developed.
Today, some cities in the United States still allow residents to keep live chickens as pets, although the practice is quickly disappearing. Individuals in rural communities commonly keep chickens for both ornamental and practical value. Some communities ban only roosters, allowing the quieter hens. Many zoos use chickens instead of insecticides to control insect populations.
Growing chickens can easily be tamed by feeding them a special treat such as mealworms in the palm of one's hand, and by being with them for at least ten minutes daily when they are young.
A former recurring skit on the weekly comedy show Saturday Night Live featured a chicken pet store with the Chinese owner (as played by Dana Carvey) not wishing to sell to customers on the basis that "Chickens make lousy house pets."
Chickens in agriculture In the United States, chickens were once raised primarily on family farms. Prior to about 1930, chicken was served primarily on special occasions or on Sunday, as the birds were typically more valued for their eggs than meat. Excess roosters or non-productive hens would be culled from the flock first for butchering. As cities developed and markets sprung up across the nation, live chickens from local farms could often be seen for sale in crates outside the market to be butchered and cleaned onsite by the butcher.
With the advent of vertical integration and selective breeding of efficient meat-type birds, poultry production changed dramatically. Large farms and packing plants emerged that could grow birds by the thousands. Chickens could be sent to slaughterhouses for butchering and processing into pre-packaged commercial products to be frozen or shipped fresh to markets or wholesalers. Meat-type chickens currently grow to market weight in 6-7 weeks whereas only fifty years ago it took three times as long (reference: Havenstein, G.B., P.R. Ferket, and M.A. Qureshi, 2003a. Growth, livability, and feed conversion of 1957 versus 2001 broilers when feed representative 1957 and 2001 broiler diets. Poult. Sci. 82:1500-1508). This is due exclusively to genetic selection and nutritional advances (and not to use of growth hormones, which are illegal for use in poultry in the US). Once a meat consumed only occasionally, the common availability has made chicken a common and significant meat product within developed nations. Growing concerns over the cholesterol content of red meat in the 1980s and 1990s further resulted in increased consumption of chicken.
Another breed of chicken, the Leghorn, was further developed to be efficient layers of eggs. Egg production and consumption changed with the development of automation and refrigeration. Large farms were devoted solely to egg production and packaging. Today, eggs are produced on large egg ranches on which environmental parameters are well controlled. Chickens are exposed to artificial light cycles to stimulate egg production year-round. In addition, it is a common practice to induce molt through careful manipulation of light and the amount of food they receive in order to further increase egg size and production. Often, people in developing countries keep chickens for their eggs and meat.
Issues with mass production Many animal rights advocates object to killing chickens for food or to the "factory farm conditions" under which they are raised. They contend that commercial chicken production often involves raising the birds in large, crowded rearing sheds that prevent the chickens from engaging in many of their natural behaviors. Contrary to popular belief, however, meat-type chickens are not raised in cages and are instead raised on the floor on litter such as rice hulls. They are slaughtered prior to sexual maturity, and thus many of the aggressive behaviors seen in adult chickens (fighting, cannibalism) are seldom seen in meat-type chickens. In 2004, 8.9 billion chickens were slaughtered in the United States[2].
Although many would argue that the birds are not intelligent and thus not a high priority for humane treatment on farms, a woman once brought a chicken on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno where it played "Mary Had A Little Lamb" on a toy piano and bowled 3 strikes. Animal rights groups such as PETA see this and other "amazing" trained chickens as evidence that they are intelligent and sentient and should not be killed or eaten [3].
Another animal welfare issue is the use of selective breeding to create heavy, large-breasted birds, which can lead to crippling leg disorders and heart failure for some of the birds. In addition, many scientists have raised concerns that companies growing one variety of bird for eggs or meat are causing them to become much more susceptible to disease. For this reason, many scientists are promoting the conservation of heritage breeds to retain genetic diversity in the species.
Chicken diseases Aspergillosis Avian influenza (bird flu) - most well-known chicken-related disease Blackhead disease Botulism Cage Layer Fatigue Coccidiosis Colds Crop bound Egg bound Erysipelas Fatty Liver Hemorrhagic Syndrome Fowl Cholera Fowl pox Fowl Typhoid Gapeworms Infectious Bronchitis Infectious Bursal Disease (Gumboro) Infectious Coryza Lymphoid Leucosis Marek's disease Mites Moniliasis Mycoplasmas Newcastle disease Necrotic Enteritis Omphalitis (Mushy chick disease) Prolapse (in egg layers) Psittacosis Pullorum (Salmonella) Scaly leg Squamous cell carcinoma Tibial dyschondroplasia Toxoplasmosis Ulcerative Enteritis Chickens are also susceptible to parasites, including lice, mites, ticks, fleas, and intestinal Worms.
Chickenpox is a disease of humans, not chickens.
Chickens in religion In Indonesia the chicken has great significance during the Hindu cremation ceremony. A chicken is a channel for evil spirits which may be present during the ceremony. A chicken is tethered by the leg and kept present at the ceremony for the duration to ensure that any evil spirits present during the ceremony go into the chicken and not the family members present. The chicken is then taken home and returns to its normal life. It is not treated in any special way or slaughtered after the ceremony.
In ancient Greece, the chicken was not normally used for sacrifices, perhaps because it was still considered an exotic animal. Because of its valour, cocks are found as attributes of Ares, Heracles and Athena. The Greeks believed that even lions were afraid of cocks. Several of Aesop's Fables reference this belief.
In the cult of Mithras, the cock was a symbol of the divine light and a guardian against evil.
In the Bible, Jesus prophesied the betrayal by Peter: "And he said, I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me." (Luke 22:43) Thus it happened (Luke 22:61), and Peter cried bitterly. This made the cock a symbol for both vigilance and betrayal.
Earlier, Jesus compares himself to a mother hen, when talking about Jerusalem: "How often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!" (Matthew 23:37; also Luke 13:34).
In many Central European folk tales, the devil is believed to flee at the first crowing of a cock.
In some sects of Orthodox Judaism a chicken is slaughtered on the afternoon before Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) in a ceremony called kappores. Although not actually a sacrifice in the biblical sense, the death of the chicken reminds the penitent sinner that his or her life is in God's hands. A woman brings a hen to be slaughtered, a man brings a rooster. The meat is donated to the poor.
The Talmud speaks of learning "courtesy toward one's mate" from the rooster. This might refer to the fact that, when a rooster finds something good to eat, he calls his hens to eat first.
The chicken is one of the Zodiac symbols of the Chinese calendar. Also in Chinese religion, a cooked chicken as a religious offering is usually limited to ancestor veneration and worship of village deities. Vegetarian deities such as Buddha are not one of the recipients of such offerings. Under some observations, an offering of chicken is present with "serious" prayer (while roasted pork is offered during a joyous celebration).
History The first pictures of chickens in Europe are found on Corinthian pottery of the 7th century BC. The poet Cratinus (mid-5th century BC, according to the later Greek author Athenaeus) calls the chicken "the Persian alarm". In Aristophanes's comedy The Birds (414 BC) a chicken is called "the Median bird", which points to an introduction from the East. Pictures of chickens are found on Greek red figure and black-figure pottery.
In ancient Greece, chickens were still rare and were a rather prestigious food for symposia. Delos seems to have been a centre of chicken breeding.
An early domestication of chickens in Southeast Asia is probable, since the word for domestic chicken (*manuk) is part of the reconstructed Proto-Austronesian language (see Austronesian languages). Chickens, together with dogs and pigs, were the domestic animals of the Lapita culture, the first Neolithic culture of Oceania.
Chickens were spread by Polynesian seafarers and reached Easter Island in the 12th century AD, where they were the only domestic animal, with the possible exception of the Polynesian Rat (Rattus exulans). They were housed in extremely solid chicken coops built from stone. Traveling as cargo on trading boats, they reached the Asian continent via the islands of Indonesia and from there spread west to Europe and western Asia.
Chickens in Ancient Rome The Romans used chickens for oracles, both when flying ("ex avibus") and when feeding ("auspicium ex tripudiis"). The hen ("gallina") gave a favourable omen ("auspicium ratum"), when appearing from the left (Cic.,de Div. ii.26), like the crow and the owl.
For the oracle "ex tripudiis" according to Cicero (Cic. de Div. ii.34), any bird could be used, but normally only chickens ("pulli") were consulted. The chickens were cared for by the pullarius, who opened their cage and fed them pulses or a special kind of soft cake when an augury was needed. If the chickens stayed in their cage, made noises ("occinerent"), beat their wings or flew away, the omen was bad; if they ate greedily, the omen was good.
In 249 BC, the Roman general Publius Claudius Pulcher had his chickens thrown overboard when they refused to feed before the battle of Drepana, saying "If they won't eat, perhaps they will drink." He promptly lost the battle against the Carthaginians and 93 Roman ships were sunk. Back in Rome, he was tried for impiety and heavily fined.
In 161 BC a law was passed in Rome that forbade the consumption of fattened chickens. It was renewed a number of times, but does not seem to have been successful. Fattening chickens with bread soaked in milk was thought to give especially delicious results. The Roman gourmet Apicius offers 17 recipes for chicken, mainly boiled chicken with a sauce. All parts of the animal are used: the recipes include the stomach, liver, testicles and even the pygostyle (the fatty "tail" of the chicken where the tail feathers attach).
The Roman author Columella gives advice on chicken breeding in his eighth book of his treatise on agriculture. He identifies Tanagrian, Rhodic, Chalkidic and Median (commonly misidentified as Melian) breeds, which have an impressive appearance, a quarrelsome nature and were used for cockfighting by the Greeks. For farming, native (Roman) chickens are to be preferred, or a cross between native hens and Greek cocks. Dwarf chickens are nice to watch because of their size but have no other advantages.
Per Columella, the ideal flock consists of 200 birds, which can be supervised by one person if someone is watching for stray animals. White chickens should be avoided as they are not very fertile and are easily caught by eagles or goshawks. One cock should be kept for five hens. In the case of Rhodian and Median cocks that are very heavy and therefore not much inclined to sex, only three hens are kept per cock. The hens of heavy fowls are not much inclined to brood; therefore their eggs are best hatched by normal hens. A hen can hatch no more than 15-23 eggs, depending on the time of year, and supervise no more than 30 hatchlings. Eggs that are long and pointed give more male, rounded eggs mainly female hatchlings.
Per Columella, Chicken coops should face southeast and lie adjacent to the kitchen, as smoke is beneficial for the animals. Coops should consist of three rooms and possess a hearth. Dry dust or ash should be provided for dust-baths.
According to Columella, chicken should be fed on barley groats, small chick-peas, millet and wheat bran, if they are cheap. Wheat itself should be avoided, it is harmful to the birds. Boiled ryegrass (Lollium sp.) and the leaves and seeds of alfalfa (Medicago sativa L.) can be used as well. Grape marc can be used, but only when the hens stop laying eggs, that is, about the middle of November; otherwise eggs are small and few. When feeding grape marc, it should be supplemented with some bran. Hens start to lay eggs after the winter solstice, in warm places around the first of January, in colder areas in the middle of February. Parboiled barley increases their fertility; this should be mixed with alfalfa leaves and seeds, or vetches or millet if alfalfa is not at hand. Free-ranging chickens should receive two cups of barley daily.
Columella advises farmers to slaughter hens that are older than three years, because they no longer produce sufficient eggs. Capons were produced by burning out their spurs with a hot iron. The wound was treated with potter's chalk.
For the use of poultry and eggs in the kitchens of ancient Rome see Roman eating and drinking.
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Post by Morocco Rock Fox on Jul 14, 2006 19:34:31 GMT -5
Chickens as Pets By Kathy Bernhardt Chickens may seem like an odd choice for a pet, but they can be very engaging, friendly and entertaining - and they pay their way with eggs and pest control for your garden. Chickens can easily be tamed and trained, even as adults, with positive reinforcements and food rewards. They will come running when they think you might have a treat, learn to eat out of your hand and some may even allow you to stroke them. If you talk to them, treat them well and handle them gently you'll have faithful followers. However, for a truly bonded pet that will seek out your company, follow you around the yard and nestle in your lap for a nap you may want to hand-raised a baby chick.
Before considering a chicken as a pet, check your local zoning laws. In the country, this should not be an issue, but some cities have strict regulations on keeping "farm animals". A single banty hen might be OK in a city apartment or house, but chickens need to be outdoors at least part of the day, love to scratch in dirt and take dust baths, eat tender new shoots (remember that some house plants can be poisonous), and lay sprawled out in the sun. House training a chicken, although not impossible, may prove difficult.
Chickens come in hundreds of colors and "styles": Brown, gold, red, white, gray, silver, speckled, spotted, checkered, dappled, smooth, fluffy, silky, grizzled, whiskered, bearded, bare legged, feathered legged, booted, high tailed, bushy tailed, long combed, rose combed, bare headed or with fanciful headdresses to mention a few. Hens, with their subtler colors, lay eggs and cackle and cluck. Cockerels (roosters) are much more colorful and flashier, fertilize those eggs and crow loudly and often. Unless you want more baby chicks, don't get a rooster as a companion for your hen. Hens do not need a rooster to lay eggs, and without one, will be less stressed and harassed. Chickens come in various sizes, from one-pound banties to 10 pound Giant Jerseys. Some hens lay blue or green-shelled eggs, some spotted, some dark brown and others pearl white. Some lay every day while others only a few months of the year. Most hens start laying in their 5th or 6th month and are productive up to their third or fourth year, but some have been known to produce well into "old age". Pet chickens average lifespan is about 15 years.
When choosing a breed, consider the space they need. A single banty - or even two or three - does very well with a dog carrier for sleeping quarters and a small patch of dirt to scratch, while the larger laying breeds may need an covered coop with up to 6 square feet per chicken and at least some "free range" space. They need perches at varying levels (they like to be as high as they can get at night), and a laying box. Chickens can wander around an established garden and feast on weeds and insects, doing some of your garden chores for you. Kept outside, they need a safe place to sleep where predators can't get to them, and if you live in an area prone to wild animals, they may need to be kept contained all the time. Hawks, coyotes, raccoons, weasels, rats, feral cats and loose dogs all consider chickens a tasty treat. Although chickens don't fly long distances, they can make it to the top of a fence or a low tree branch when startled, but usually head under a low bush to hide.
Whether you decide on a single chicken as a hand-raised pet or want to keep a small flock, make sure that the chicks have been vaccinated against Marek's and Newcastle disease, and come from a salmonella-tested breeding flock. Unless you purchase a "sex-linked" breed (one where the color is different for hens and roosters), you may be taking your chances with feed-store chicks. Reputable and experienced breeders can sex one-day old chicks, but after that, until they grow up, most breeds cannot be sexed, even by behavior. Some hens act very aggressive as youngsters, while some roosters are meek and gentle until their hormones kick in. Although some roosters can and do make nice pets, most can be quite aggressive and all are loud. It is nearly impossible to place an adult rooster in a new home. Sadly, most end up in a stew pot. Chicks from a "straight run" (non-sexed) feed store lot cost just a few dollars. Pre-sexed chicks from proven show stock (birds that have won prizes at displays and fairs) can be considerably more expensive.
Raising a baby chick is fun and easy. They are precocial birds, which means that they are able to walk and eat on their own soon after hatching. Tiny chicks need a heat source, a clean environment, food and water. You can invest in a chick brooder or build your own from a large glass aquarium or wooden or cardboard box, a shielded clip-on lamp and some screening or towels for a cover. The box should be about 24 inches long by 18 inches wide and about 12 to 18 inches tall. This is big enough for up to 6 small chicks. Clip the light on the edge and position it so it is about 4" above the flooring. Line the box with newspaper and fill with about 1 inch of wood shavings or sawdust, although paper towels work just as well and are easy to change out daily. Check the temperature under the lamp - it should be quite warm on your hand, but not hot - 90 degrees F is about right. Some breeders prefer red bulbs to minimize stress at night. The chick will sit under this lamp to stay warm and will wander out from under it to eat and drink. Provide a shallow dish of water - no more than 1/2 inch deep. Add small stones to the water dish so the chick can't fall in and get wet or drown. Provide a shallow dish of "chick starter", available at the feed store. Change the water and food at least twice a day. The chick will peep loudly when cold or hungry, and make contended little chirping sounds when happy. Handle minimally for the first few days, as tiny babies are delicate and stress out easily. As the chick gets older, provide more and more one-on-one time. Cup your hand over the baby as you sit quietly, feed it little pieces of corn, berries, live small mealworms and other treats from your hand while saying its name, and within a very short time the little chicken will associate your voice with food and comfort and will come to you every time you call. At about 4-5 weeks of age the baby can go outside, supervised, and at about 8 weeks should be old enough to not need the lamp any more. At about 5 months the chick can stay in the outside pen overnight. If you plan to have the chicken sleep inside, start placing it in the carrier at nights at around 2-3 months of age. Chickens are creatures of habit and tend to choose the same area to perch and sleep every night.
As adults, feed your chickens good quality layer's pellets or layer's mash (powder form) in the mornings and pre-mixed grain in the afternoon, with clean, fresh water available at all times. Pellets can be given in a feeder from which they help themselves, while the grain can be scattered on the ground so that they can enjoy scratching for it. They also like wheat, corn, safflower and shelled sunflower seeds. Table scraps are a welcome treat, but limit them to less than 1/4 of the diet or they may not get proper nutrition.
Chickens will also eat the growing tips of grasses, and anything they can forage during their scratching activities. They provide a natural garden pest control, eating snails, slugs, earwigs and other insects, so only use non-toxic, organic pesticides on things they might eat. If kept in a coop, provide them with greens such as cabbage leaves, lettuce, spinach and/or green vegetables hung up so that they can peck at them when they want to. Hanging containers prevent debris from being scratched into the food and water. Also provide some poultry grit to help grain digestion in the gizzard, and crushed oystershell for strong eggshells. To keep your chickens healthy and prevent odors, clean the coop regularly.
If you allow chickens to roam in your garden, it's best to monitor their activities, because they won't know the difference between a marigold or lettuce seedling and a weed. Alternatively, you can build a roving run (sometimes called a chicken tractor) for them, setting the wood-and-wire contraption in areas of the garden not currently under cultivation , and then till under what they leave you. Even in an enclosed coop and run, the hens will provide for the garden. Chicken manure, cleaned out of the coop with the bedding, can be applied to the dormant vegetable garden or added to the compost pile (fresh manure can burn plants in active growth).
Pet chickens are not as odd as they seem and those who have kept them rave about their qualities and attributes. Chickens have distinct and interesting personalities. In a flock they quickly establish a social order and watching this evolve in a group of growing fowl is highly entertaining. Raised with love and tenderness, they'll be only too happy for you to be at the top of their 'pecking order'.
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sofia
Baby Animal
My babies hugging! What a good couple!
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Post by sofia on Jul 14, 2006 22:40:25 GMT -5
wow thanks! That will really help!
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Post by Morocco Rock Fox on Jul 15, 2006 7:46:38 GMT -5
Did you read it all?!?!
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Post by serina48723 on Sept 17, 2006 18:08:48 GMT -5
Well I know that when the poo it is a mess. I only know the main kind. Just don't get a rotten egg. Man those things stink.
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