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Jul 26, 2006 9:18:18 GMT -5
Post by Morocco Rock Fox on Jul 26, 2006 9:18:18 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]What you are about to be hearing is very strong language (not cursing) but is very meaningful and intense to hunters. If you hunt you may not like what you are about to read. If you like, this would be the time to turn away.
To me, hunting is the stupidist thing. Why would you kill an animal no matter what the circumstances are? If it bit you or such then you did something to it. Maybe you were on it's territory, maybe you were naer their babies, maybe you frightened them. they don't bte or attack ect. for no reason!!!
Another thing, how come men think that this makes them strong? It makes them cruel and that's about it! When you kill and animal by hunting, you use a gun or weapon right? How does that make you strong? All that signifies is that you can aim. Wow good job! Why don't you try to hunt a wolf or deer with no waepons? The deer will outrun you the wolf will defeat you. Humans are weak in strenth manor. If you do not agree then look into it. No human can compare to an animal. We have our ways that make us better in CERTAIN areas such as making weapons and inventing things but that doesn't make us any stronger. it just makes you weapon smart. [/glow]
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Jul 26, 2006 17:29:21 GMT -5
Post by kaismama on Jul 26, 2006 17:29:21 GMT -5
You are entitled to your views, and if you disagree with hunting that is fine. But you should respect everyone elses, if you wish your to be respected as well. Attacking someones interests and or way of life isnt exactly respectful. You could point out the waste of life, the cruelty to the animal itself and even point out that humans wouldn't appreciate being hunted. But a side thought, hunted animals have more of a chance of surviving than cows and pigs and sheep that are led to slaughter. Hunting tests man against animal and there is a chance for survival, whereas cows are led to a platform and killed by the row, where is the fairness in that? I respect your opinion and even understand it, but there are always two sides to a coin.
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Jul 26, 2006 17:40:05 GMT -5
Post by Morocco Rock Fox on Jul 26, 2006 17:40:05 GMT -5
I didn't mean to be disrespectful or anything but that is the way i feel. I don't like hunting or slaughter because even though there is a chance to survive in hunting, it is unfair. What will an animal do against a weapon
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Jul 26, 2006 18:30:03 GMT -5
Post by kaismama on Jul 26, 2006 18:30:03 GMT -5
I understand where you are coming from, animals have no real chance against a weapon, but hunting is instilled in human behavior. We all hunt for food so to speak, but lately we dont have to look farther than the grocery store for it.
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Jul 26, 2006 19:24:57 GMT -5
Post by Morocco Rock Fox on Jul 26, 2006 19:24:57 GMT -5
I just don't like it. You don'tneed meat to survive although people like it.
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Jul 27, 2006 15:08:28 GMT -5
Post by kaismama on Jul 27, 2006 15:08:28 GMT -5
You dont need it to survive, but thats because we know there are healthy alternatives, but not everyone likes those alternatives, and rely on meat as a protein source. Is it fair no, but its the food chain. And until we get to the point where we no longer find meat an acceptable protein source it will exist and we can dislike it, and speak against it, but in the end people will eat what they eat. Such is life.
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Jul 27, 2006 17:00:50 GMT -5
Post by Morocco Rock Fox on Jul 27, 2006 17:00:50 GMT -5
Hopefully people will realize that...
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Aug 6, 2006 18:17:43 GMT -5
Post by Morocco Rock Fox on Aug 6, 2006 18:17:43 GMT -5
I hope a law will be enfoced about hunting...
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Aug 21, 2006 18:59:26 GMT -5
Post by hanzrabidelf on Aug 21, 2006 18:59:26 GMT -5
I personally do not like it and would not do it myself. But I have seen what happens when there are two many deer and they are starving to death. My family is native american and beleive that every part should be used.
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Aug 21, 2006 19:43:59 GMT -5
Post by Morocco Rock Fox on Aug 21, 2006 19:43:59 GMT -5
Yeah, no animal should be killed if they are not used for something nessicary, with empahsis on nessicary.
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Sept 3, 2006 13:43:13 GMT -5
Post by gimmiesugar on Sept 3, 2006 13:43:13 GMT -5
Just FYI, there ARE laws regarding hunting. Hunting is allowed to keep populations down. When hunting is slowed or discontinued, animals starve to death because there is not enough food to last them through winters, etc.
Morocco - are you vegetarian? If not, someone had to kill the animals that you eat. That is what God intended for us to eat or we wouldn't want it or need it.
Without hunting, the ecological resources as we know them would be completely destroyed. Because of the need for humans to have more and more space (this can start a whole other debate, but unless we're all willing to be sterilized and not produce any more humans, it's a fact of life) and encroaching on forests, etc., we leave animals with no food or shelter. If left alone, these animals will continue to reproduce until they have no way of sustaining their own populations. Hunting is regulated to allow for a certain number of animals to be taken based on the populations in certain areas.
In Maine for instance, moose licenses are handed out per a lottery type drawing. Not everyone is allowed to hunt moose. However, due to them now coming into populated areas and reproducing a high number of off spring, a hunt has been allowed. Only a certain amount of licenses have been issued to THIN the population and allow those left to thrive.
Hunting for pure sport or for a trophy on a wall is barbaric and inhumane. I once saw a deer swimming across a salt water canal in NC to get away from two hunting dogs. Now, in the NC pine forests, they are allowed to use dogs. THAT is barbaric. Is a man with a gun not enough of an advantage? The pine forrests, planted by the paper companies are so thick and dense that it's difficult for a man to walk through them so they get a couple of guys with cb radios and pick up trucks. One sits and waits on one dirt road and another waits on the other side of the pine thicket. The dogs run the deer through and the guy waiting on the other side shoots it. Now THAT is barbaric. It's so thick with deer it's difficult to drive through at night because they're everywhere. Obviously, there is a need to thin the heards, but using dogs is just wrong to do it when you're practically tripping over the deer anyhow.
Another example; alligators in Florida. For years it was against the law to hunt alligators. Guess what is happening now? There are way too many alligators. Dogs are being eaten, they're coming into yards and stealing household pets, not too mention, how many humans have now been eaten by alligators just this year alone?
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Sept 3, 2006 16:15:15 GMT -5
Post by Morocco Rock Fox on Sept 3, 2006 16:15:15 GMT -5
Yes, I am a vegietarian, but I love in Florida and people need to hunt for the population because there are too many humans there. And issuing a license doesn't help because then there is poaching and when the guard people catch them, (most of the time they don't) they normally don't check the lisense.
As for the alligators in Florida, I live in Florida and there are alligators in my back yard and when there is a menacing alligator, they euthanize it but if it is just a innocent alligator that the people don't want, they find a place for it. Also, there are houses being built acroos the lake and there have been many reports about alligators, being a Floridian, I know that you can't live in a lake in Florida without seeing an alligator, there aren't too many alligators, there are too many people. We weren;t here first, they were, we are in thier backyard, they are not in ours!
I don't mean to get hyped up but I feel strongly about hunting.
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Sept 3, 2006 16:44:33 GMT -5
Post by gimmiesugar on Sept 3, 2006 16:44:33 GMT -5
I understand what you're saying in theory, but legal hunting is not the cause of the problems. And, whether we like it or not, we can't have alligators running around in peoples back yards when they're eating animals bigger than the neighborhood children. I went to jr. high and high school in Florida so I'm well aware of the alligator population. When I was there, it was illegal to kill a problem gator, which I agreed with, but people had to call animal control which took it's time to come out and remove them. Now, the state is being over populated with them again. I don't understand your statement that there are not too many alligators, but too many people....you are a person. Do you want to volunteer to give up your space to an alligator? I think not, I know I don't....LOL!
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Sept 3, 2006 19:15:21 GMT -5
Post by Morocco Rock Fox on Sept 3, 2006 19:15:21 GMT -5
No, what I mean is that the people are moving into alligator territorry. If you lived here now you would understand. Everyone wants to move here now so the animals that live here are being pushed to thier limits. Get what I mean?
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Sept 3, 2006 20:32:40 GMT -5
Post by gimmiesugar on Sept 3, 2006 20:32:40 GMT -5
Yea, I get what you mean. I'm just saying whether we agree with it or not, people are going to come first and ya can't allow an animal that can eat us to run rampant and not thin the population. You said you live near a lake....if you think about it that makes you part of the problem with it (no offense meant!!). If people are going to live near bodies of water in Florida, they are encroaching on the natural habitat of an alligator. Either the alligators go or the people go and I don't think the people are going to leave any time soon.
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Sept 3, 2006 20:48:33 GMT -5
Post by Morocco Rock Fox on Sept 3, 2006 20:48:33 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess so but man, I feel bad for all those animals who get hunted.
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Sept 3, 2006 21:07:12 GMT -5
Post by gimmiesugar on Sept 3, 2006 21:07:12 GMT -5
Yea, me too even though I come from a family of hunters, but they are very responsible hunters. They eat the meat and don't consider them trophys. They are true outdoorsman who understand the need for certain hunts. Unfortunately, not everyone plays by moral or ethical rules and just want to kill something. Those people give all hunters a bad name.
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Sept 4, 2006 9:20:26 GMT -5
Post by Morocco Rock Fox on Sept 4, 2006 9:20:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I never really thought of that! Thanks!
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Sept 14, 2006 12:10:58 GMT -5
Post by serina48723 on Sept 14, 2006 12:10:58 GMT -5
okay lets try to keep this from getting over heated and on topic. Fox is a vegetarian and a lot of vegetarians feel the same way........that is why they are vegitarians......
However I am gunna go out on a limb here as I don't hunt..to cold when hunting season is going on and I couldn't shoot Bambi, but I do eat meat. However the part that ticks me off are these new fences that they have up here in Michigan from the state or private owners. People go in and pay big money and are guaranteed to get a deer when they walk out. If not they get their money back. To me that isn't hunting and hasn't been brought up here. To me that is entrapment of any animal.
DNR allows hunting only at certain times of year, per species. Wild animals populate really quickly, and most of the animals will not survive in the winters that most of these states have, or kill a human if they run out in front of an ongoing car.
So needless to say I see both issues here, so I feel that I have to add my two cents in. If we think about this from the cave man days none of us would be here today had someone not killed an animal in some way. However to trap an animal to hunt it is wrong. I strongly disagree with that. So lets just try to keep this on topic and be reasonable.
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